Is this website obsolete?

[White Fox]

Folks, this shows how if others would join in the conversation here and give us ideas what a great little site that this could be. Come on out. Give us your ideas. Tell us what we do right. Tell us what we do wrong!!! We love to hear that as well. That is the way that we can learn and know what you really would like to see here. What you like. What you don't like. If you hate us with a passion tell us that too, and why!

We would love to hear any suggestions that you have for us for improvements and changes. With our server not allowing XXX that is pretty much unchangeable, but anything else is pretty much on the table. What do you think of Samurman's blog idea? What ideas do you have for other areas of the site either existing now or possible new areas. We would love to hear from you!

Is Samurman the only one who has thought of a blog? It is really hard to develop these areas on only one suggestion. Has anyone else any such thoughts?

W

[Worker 11811]

What do you think of Samurman's blog idea?

I think blogs are very important. There are too many websites where the user does not have any control over content. Blogs solve that problem. The user is his own boss. He or she gets to post whatever he wants. There is nobody to tell them what is allowed or not allowed, within the rules of the User Agreement of the site.

Second, blogs are what make search engines valuable. The more people blog about a certain subject, the more things become relevant to a certain topic. For instance, if a lot of people start blogging about fur, the search engines will start ranking the word "fur" as a relevant keyword to every URL linked to on those pages. If enough people use the word "fur" in their blogs and post links to fur related sites, the word "fur" will become a hot topic on Google, Yahoo and all the others.

[AKcoyote]

It's too bad Coppermine software has such restrictions

I think rather than restrictions, it is a case design limitations - features not thought of during the application design process.

[grouchomg]

I ran across this old thread while perusing the Den and have a comment. But first, no, I don't think The Fur Den is obsolete.

Here's my comment. Over thirty people have joined The Fur Den since Jan 1, me among them. However, only three of us new members have posted anything. I wish that more new members would post.

I suspect some members - old as well as new - view this site as an opportunity to be a fur voyeur... nothing wrong with that. Then there are those like me who want to use the Den as a place to converse and interact, to contact and chat with people of like mind and for support in our fur love. I suspect that I will use chat and other social media to converse with some of you, but the Den is a place that I can come back to for new ideas and contacts.

Anywho, that's my point of view. Lunch is over, and I have to go back to my engineering personna. I do very much like the Den.

[JGalanos]

I do very much like the Den.

Ditto!

[auzmink]

For my 10cents worth, I am a Facebook member. I am to patrol my kids on-line. They know it, and let me join in their conversations.

My whole impression of the Social networking sites is the significant negative / 'dissing' attitude which flies around these sites. No-one says "G'day' anymore but spends a lot of time bad-mouthing individuals / things. (Get rid of this person, I don't like that rule, stop this organisation).

Whilst some of these things are good, with so much negative energy flying around, putting this forum on such a level would remove the great positive energy we have here. Yes its patrolled, and that's why we can encourage each other rather than shirking and hiding under a barrage of negative sentiments from un-informed individuals.

The chat site in the past didn't work for me, even time zones limited good interaction.

Perhaps postings are reduced in number over time, a lot of things have already been stated / discussed. As time progresses we can hope more individuals contribute and the profile of the site increase peoples ability / safety to wear fur more openly.

Lets keep the positive

Auzmink

[White Fox]

Re wishing more new people would post.

Man, how often I have heard that and agree with absolutely everyone who said it. I've even been known to dare and bribe silent members out there to join. Partly because they will have fun. ANd partly because any site like this needs new members to come on to post new ideas, etc. They would energize this site so very much if they would come in and join. And yet so few do. On this site and many others.

I think that most "lurkers" think that their contribution here would be very minimal, and as such makes no different to this site or any other. When, it is folks like them who "make the site" at any particular time. They actually could be it's life blood just by joining, giving their ideas, etc.

Anyhow, Auz brings some fantastic points here as well. How so many members of these sites can be so negative. I often wonder if they even realize that there are doing it any more as they have seen that so much! I think that they forget by times that it is a person pretty much exactly like them who is in charge of the site, and all of the moderators and staff are just the same. And how many people take the time to thank Brandy for her efforts here, or others who post often. Find links. Post pictures in the Gallery. I've often heard mods here say how hard it is to delete a message as they k now that someone took the time to write that. Organize their thoughts. Find the links. etc.

Any site is the individuals who make it up. Each individual can make such a huge difference by doing nothing more than posting a message now and then. I just wish that more people would realize that just that little bit of typing by them would make the site so much more interesting for themselves and others!

W

[starrxxfoxx]

To all members and White Fox,

This site forum subject and website is not obsolete.

The Fur Den site forum and website allows comments and photos diverse and interesting, agreeable and disagreeable, positive and negative. As one who was kicked off of Fur Fashion Forums for simply having a disagreeable opinion on the way a fur coat looked, I appreciate the Fur Den welcoming all members and their opinions.

That is the Fur Den's positive contribution to us all.

I appreciate that all the members contribute with photos or comments. I appreciate that I can post smoking in fur photos that I know some of our members appreciate, and some don't. I have never seen a negative comment about the smoking in fur photos I have posted from any member because it appears our members are more open to diversity, and that is a fine testament to our membership and our owner and administrator White Fox who controls the game here.

Kudos to MrC1946 for bringing me in to this fine group.

Sincerely,

Starrxxfoxx

[White Fox]

This should be a thread for you folks and not for me, but I did want to reply once again to Star's message here. One of the things that can be so difficult on sites like these is to make rules that are respectful of members, but at the same time allow everyone to "Have a great time" because after all this is the reason for our existence.

You might notice that Starr has been a member here for a long while, even though he has not made a lot of posts. I seem to recall that he has made a lot of very great contributions to our Gallery indeed!

I just wanted to say here that I remember a comment made by one of our moderators here at one point. I am not even sure if it is a mod from the present or the past! We have a small forum where moderators record that they moved/deleted/edited a post and tell others why. The mod's comment was "I so hated to remove that post because the member took a long time to think of that message. Organize their thoughts, and type it all out. It really bothers me to remove it!" It is so great to be on a site where we have so little to do in that respect. Sure a "peta freak" gets in now than and we have to take care of that. But seldom do we have other issues. Each and every time that a member writes something we do try to consider his/her thoughts, because each one of those messages are the very being - the very heart - of this site. It is not me who or FrBrGr who make it. It is not the moderators. It is each of you folks! And the work you do making every individual message there.

But, we really do welcome comments here on posts even though MANY other sites but fur and not fur oriented do not. Thoughts. Ideas. Those posts of that type are the ones that often times reflect the true outlook of the individual members. They are the ones that really "Come from the heart"! So as long as they do not actually "attack" another member in any way they are indeed some of the most welcome posts here.

As for furs and smoking, no not all members like those. But, that is part off being a human. I might not like what someone else loves. So, that is why we made our own folder for those. Those who love them will find them all together to enjoy rather than having to sort through everywhere to find them. And those who do not like them can simply not look. But that is indeed part of the "fetish slant" to this site.

Really appreciate hearing the thoughts of you folks on this thread. It means a great deal to us in fact knowing your thoughts, likes, and dislikes, etc. With that I will go back to the side lines again and hope to hear from more of you.

[JGalanos]

If I did the math right, we've had a new member join the Den on average every other day year-to-date. And over 10% of them have already made one or more posts. I would consider those encouraging statistics.

Long live the Den!