wallee Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I just received this from a LADY fwiend of mine. I didn't write it so don't complain to me. Article from the 50's EDIT. seems I turned into Elmer Fudd at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 If the messenger didn't want shooting, he shouldn't have delivered the message. Should he? Like I'm ever going to take any of that advice. Come here Wallee and I'll recalibrate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Women! Know your limits! That is the hysterical message of a send up sketch from harry Enfield in the UK . Starts off as a public information crackly black and white film reel. It may be one of these on youtube: I love the bit about: "well I don't know anything about the gold standard but I do know all about fluffy kittens." My girlfriend will often use that line in converstaion wih any animal rights leaning person in ironic sarcasm; she means it. She is a cat whisperer.....and also is telling them that they know nothing about animals. She sits back after syaing it as a put down, snuggles into her fur and lights a cigarette elegantly. They don't know whether to seethe or laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallee Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Come here Wallee and I'll recalibrate you. Tease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Don't wallee. Don't. You don't know what you are letting yourself in for. If you had any idea of the horrors that await you engaging Tryxie Trash like this you wouldn't even think of it......if she wasn't so petite I would swear Amazon heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Yeah, that article is more than a bit lopsided. That's pretty much a fantasy life, even for the time period it was (supposedly) written in. There's nothing wrong with aspiring to that kind of lifestyle but for two caveats: 1) You WANT that kind of lifestyle. 2) You can AFFORD IT! Damn!! That husband had better be bringing home $150,000 per year! Because, if a woman is going to be "asked" to live up to that standard, she had better be treated like a QUEEN. Hubby had better take her out on the town every Saturday night and they'd better be going on a two week ocean cruise every year for their vacation! She'd better have a closet full of furs and a jewelry box full of diamonds and pearls! There'd better be a Mercedes in the garage and she'd better be living in a DAMN fine house! There's no way anybody, even in the 50's, should be expected to live up to those kinds of responsibilities unless they are compensated handsomly! So, my question is: "What would it take?" LADIES: If you were guaranteed to live in a big, beautiful house and have all the diamonds and furs you wanted, WOULD you live that kind of lifestyle? GENTLEMEN: What would you do? Considering your potential rewards, how hard would you work to PROVIDE that kind of lifestyle for your wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrBrGr Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Uh . . . Isn't this the way it is for everybody? Or is it just this way at my house . . . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxette Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I personally have no problems with either the message or the messanger. True feminism should allow for all women to live the lives they choose, not just the one's that a new group of dictators...this time female ones...decide they should live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 In the "Donna Reed", "Leave it to Beaver" traditional role model there is an implicit contract. Yes, the wife is expected to stay at home and keep the home fires buring, so to speak. But it is ALSO expected that the husband is the one who brings home the bacon. Each member of the partnership has their benefits as well as their responsibilities. The wife doesn't have to work outside the home and all of her needs are met through the husband's career. The husband isn't expected to do daily housework and is treated like "King of the Castle" but he is also expected to be the sole breadwinner and is supposed to be the protector of his wife and family. The traditional role models were supposed to be the Utopian ideal of division of labor. HOWEVER... The whole traditional ideal was nothing more than a fantasy from the start. It was a fantasy created by capitalistic advertisers who wanted people to believe that they could have anything they want, if only they work hard enough... And buy the right soap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallee Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 I personally have no problems with ...the messanger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrBrGr Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 The whole traditional ideal was nothing more than a fantasy from the start. It was a fantasy created by capitalistic advertisers who wanted people to believe that they could have anything they want, if only they work hard enough... Well, I must admit - Those of us who are old enough to remember the Cleavers still laugh about them. Nobody was, is, or ever will be as perfect as the Cleaver family! But - Capitalism is not a fantasy. It is the only economic system of the four (Capitalism, Facism, Socialism and Communism) that has worked. All others have failed. One of the basic premises of the free enterprise system is that if you work hard enough, anything is attainable. It's all about Conceiving, Believing and then Achieving - and given the right condition - Liberty - anything is possible. Sorry - This thread is supposed to be humorous, and look what we're doing - getting all serious. But what the hell - This is a pub, right? Another round, everyone . . . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 But - Capitalism is not a fantasy. Never said it was the fault of Capitalism. Only the capitalistic ADVERTISERS. It was the Proctor and Gamble company who started perpetuating these ideals through their advertising campaigns in the 1930's depression era. The term "Soap Opera" comes directly from the radio programs broadcast at the time, bought and paid for by P & G. Some of these programs would literally work the brand name of a P & G product into the dialog of every single line in the program. Sometimes the name of a product was plugged as often as every 30 seconds! Buy Chipso laundry soap! Cook with Crisco! These were the very first product placements and the very first infomercials! The TV shows, "Leave it to Beaver" and "Donna Reed" were simply the apex of the artform. Thus, the reason for the last line of my post... And buy the right soap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Fox Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Hey Tryxie If that is the way marriage works maybe I'll propose to you tonight! Remember. You have no right to question him! If TOS doesn't beat me to it. W P.S. Iit is indeed pretty hard to realize just how much things have changed in that time. You know, the Second World War I think had a lot to do with that. Women began to work and take care of the house. They realized that they should be given rights and they stood up for them. I hope I will not offend anyone with this. It is true. In the Southern US are two native tribes called Seminole and Mikissouki (Think I have the first name right.) In the 1950's they were still pretty much destitute, washing their clothes in the river, etc. The men were too proud to beg, so the women did it. Then, as the tribes began to emerge, the women kept that power and even today they have it. Everyone has told me that they are among the most honest and caring people that they have met and indeed I have had some very meaningful talks with some of them. But I have also been told that if you cross one of the women with a bad business deal you will be sorry! They are businesswomen in the true sense of the word. And the Mikissouki gals at least have brought their tribes from poor beyond belief to among the richest in the nation. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Tweak me tryxie Tweak me Tryxie OFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubby Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 What a coincidence. This same artical appears in the Feb. 2007 issue of Islamic Housekeeping Monthly. Chubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallee Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 Just keeping myself on the sh&t list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Thankfully in the last hundred years men have learnt their place. If they try that sort of thing now, some of them are likely to get punched out. What's the difference between a man and a battery? The battery has a positive side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxette Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Now that is one I had not heard before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Fox Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 They are both the same I think. Highly charged and ready for action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Q: What's the difference between a man and a battery? A: Well if you don't know I'm not going to tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 They are both the same I think. Highly charged and ready for action! And run down quicker than expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravens8 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 OFF wrote Tweak me tryxie Tweak me Tryxie Yes please,Can you Tweak me tooo please Tryxie? (actually i think your new avatar is already doing it for me!!) Oh, and batteries and men? they can both be charged up again with a bit of attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxette Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Hey White Fox and Tryxie, if you keep the banter going you could put an act together...very nice come backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Oh, and batteries and men? they can both be charged up again with a bit of attention Only to discharge prematurely again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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