Can you say hypocrite, boys and girls?

[MrC1946]

News today:

 

http://www.forbes.com/prnewswire/feeds/prnewswire/2008/05/07/prnewswire200805071126PR_NEWS_USPR_____DC21607.html

 

Edit by AK: corrected link

[Worker 11811]

That's been known for quite a long time. A couple of years, actually.

 

I'm really glad to know that this is getting more mainstream press. It's important for people to spread the word.

[Guest]

Meet the ultimate Hypocrite Ingrid Newkirk and her handiwork.

 

 

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

 

 

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[Worker 11811]

One of the Executive VPs of P∂TA is Mary Beth Sweetland.

 

She's the one who heads up all the protests against animal testing for medical research. She's the one behind all the break ins to research facilities where animals were "liberated" and important medical research was destroyed. She's the one who stands up and screams about how bad animal testing is and she's even hired known felons to do her dirty work. There are paper trails to prove it!

 

Oh!... And there's one more interesting fact about Mary Beth Sweetland...

She's been an insulin dependant diabetic for 20 years.

 

Yet the research that figured out how to treat diabetes and which taught us how to produce the insulin that saves HUMAN lives was carried out on dogs! And, even though most insulin is produced synthetically these days, the first insulin was manufactured from dog pancreases.

 

However Mary Beth Sweetland STILL takes insulin. She has been asked why. Her reply was basically, in a nutshell, "Because I'm special!"

 

"I don't see myself as a hypocrite; I need my life to fight for the rights of animals."

 

How's THAT for hippocracy?!

[Guest]

There is one issue I recently discovered in the course of my work regarding animal cruelty. This is quite a separate issue from so called "Animal Rights".

 

10% of all pigs 'in process' of becoming pork for our tables die from ammonia asphyxiation from standing in their own urine before being slaughtered. What a gruesome thought

 

No fur farmer on the planet would ever subject their animals to this kind of abuse and waste.

 

The thing is completely unnecessary aside from wanton greed to make those condittions go away. Not that expensive.

 

Why aren't they [PeTA] going up against Cargil, Armour, Cudahy and Swift and the other big meat packing boys over this??

 

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[White Fox]

Always hard to tell with this stuff with percentages like that though it could be. I've certainly no facts to dispute it. However, I've toured those plants a lot of times and have never seen one dead or dying animal. Pork is so expensive that it just seems rather strange to me. I would think any factory that would do such would go broke almost immediately as the cost of those animals is so very high when they purchase them. Keeping those pens clean would probably cost them in the area of fifty cents per animal assuming normal wages for that work, etc. If you compare that to maybe a couple of hundred dollars per animal that would die, something seems wrong. They are losing two hundred dollars to save fifty cents. Would anyone here do that? On top of that even disposing of dead chicken carcasses is very difficult any more. A huge problem for the industry. Such is just not allowed. So can you imagine the problems of trucking all of those thousands of dead pigs somewhere day in and day out? With no where to truck them to?

 

Almost sounds like another Animal Rights fact to me, but as mentioned, you could well be correct. I've no research to say different.

[Guest]

Sorry John. This is from Industrial Equipment folks supplying the equipment [sludge and waste removal] to these plants specifically to address these issues.

 

Not your typical PeTA freaks at all. Believe me, I was shocked too. I will be looking into this more deeply.

 

With some of the other recent meat packing industry egregious violations and practices that have hit the news [again not from PeTA type folks] I'm not in a state of disbelief anymore.

 

What I do find singularly clear is the LACK of PeTA types in these discoveries. It's usually from within the industry or the results of a ecoli poisoning case.

 

I think we all have come to view the FDA as being against our best interest and just industry lackeys.

 

Historically it was a lot worse. In the mid 1800's till the auto the streets of New York City, Chicago and Cincinnati were running with animal waste. Horses for transport, cows and pigs for slaughter.

 

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[fursRme]

How about this! I think PETA has someting to do with this too! As a horse lover and owner. We now have a no kill of horses in this country for the prossesing of the horse for meat to be shiped overseas where horse meat is eaten. Well the unintended horror of this is. That with the cost of hay because of fuel cost. More and more people are abandoing horses at recored rates. Most horses whent to auctinons for sale. Auctinons do not sell horse well anymore because the meat packers that used to buy them can not processes them anymore. Hundreds of horse recue farms can not aford to feed them either! I know because atleast 10 recues have cloesd up here in Colorado! Thousands of horses left to fend for themselves are starving! And dieing! Why dosen't PETA take them and gas them too like the 20.000 dogs and cats they themselves put to sleep because nobody wanted them!

[Worker 11811]

That's because, even though P∂TA likes to LOOK like they are out for saving animals, they REALLY want to kill them... ALL domesticated animals. Farm animals, research animals, zoo animals, pets. ALL of them!

 

They came right out and said it. When "Knut" the polar bear was abandoned by its mother at the Berlin Zoo, P∂TA spokespeople said that Knut should be killed rather than be raised in captivity.

 

Last winter when heavy snows blanketed the midwest USA and stranded thousands of cattle and other livestock out in the weather in danger of starvation and death, the governor of Montana called for animal welfare people to come and help rescue the animals. Again, P∂TA spokespeople said that the animals should be left to die.

 

It is very clear to me! P∂TA has NO INTEREST in protecting animals! Time after time, they have proved it themselves! P∂TA is in the business of eradicating all domesticated animals of all kinds!

[Guest]

Their primary and sole agenda is self promotion and self aggrandizement.

 

Oh yeah .... MONEY!!!!!

 

To do this the leaders dupe young and naive guys and gals to do their dirty work.

 

 

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[Worker 11811]

You're right about that!

 

I don't have a problem with people who want to protect animals. Within reasonable limits I think this is a good thing.

 

My beef is NOT with people who want to protect animals. It is with P∂TA. As we have show, P∂TA is not in the business of protecting animals. It is a SCAM.

 

If you don't think people should have pets, don't get one.

If you think eating meat is bad, don't eat any.

If you don't like hunting, don't hunt.

If you don't like fur coats, don't buy one.

 

But, whatever you think, do NOT believe that P∂TA looks out for your interests. Not even one bit! They do not! O.F.F. said it. There is only one thing P∂TA looks out for:

 

YOUR WALLET!

[brandy-uk]

Everyone has an opinion... but it seems extreme when nearly all animals that PETA get hold off are 'put-down' and 'destroyed'...

 

I wonder if there are any cases of 'dear old Aunty jean' who now has a severe disability and is unable to take care of her life long trusty dog..(he has never bitten anyone and is a sweet doggie).. so she gives it to PETA to find him a new home...and they end up putting him down.

 

A lot of public will be unable to see through the advertising and see the real PETA??

 

Brandy

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[Unclejoe420]

If you ask me, these folks from PETA could do with a sharp upper-cut to the bottom jaw... For some folks (if not all) pets are more like companions and pretty much part of the family, and if I personally knew that once I handed over a pet to PETA for re-housing and they put them to sleep, I'd be on to the RSPCA like a shot!!

 

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - guess we all know whose ethics they mean...

 

UJ

[Guest]

What is interesting is that The Animal Humane Society has nothing to do with PeTA.

 

The Humane Society are certainly not fur lovers but they understand the difference between truly inhuman treatment of animals and animals in the context of normal human industry. They truly care for and relocate abandoned pets.

 

Treating any animal viciously is reprehensible in any frame of reference and the people who do so deserve to be punished.

 

A personal pet peeve of mine [pun intended] is the training of dogs for fighting and as "Security" dogs for a perverted sense of personal power. Or to maim animals for ??. That's plain sick and those folks certainly need to be dealt with.

 

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