Guest Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 http://www.glacierwear.com/detail.asp?product_id=fxx-100-bl2x http://www.glacierwear.com/detail.asp?product_id=fxx-100-gld5x http://www.glacierwear.com/detail.asp?product_id=fxx-100-bl5x http://www.glacierwear.com/detail.asp?product_id=fxx-100-blsh5x http://www.glacierwear.com/detail.asp?product_id=fxx-100-blfr5x Tricia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGalanos Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Beautiful pelts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailonfurs Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 too pricey though... the profit for the seller is from 80%-150% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 And pray tell, Mailonfurs, what is your profit margin on the coats you sell on eBay? Your waist-length coats don't look like they contain more than 10 or 12 male mink pelts. Tricia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGalanos Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Err ... Tricia Dear ... There is "tactful" and then there is "tacky" ... Which category do you think your query might fall in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I have bought pelts from glacierwear.com before. The people who run that website are nice and honest. Their merchandise is high quality and beyond reproach. Just like any other fur seller on the internet, they deserve to make a decent profit. I get annoyed when someone who sells rather pricey fur coats on eBay questions the profit taking of another honest seller of fur products on the internet. Tricia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKcoyote Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I think "Tricia" is ignoring the amount of labor required to turn a group of pelts into a garment. With blocking, letout, stretching, layout, sewing and finishing, there can be well over a man-week of time involved. Plus there is the overhead of running a manufacturing business - utilities, equipment (initial cost - very expensive, and maintenance), supplies, and building costs to house the business. There is a LOT more to the price of a fur garment than the cost of the pelts. That is why manufacturing furriers buy pelts at fur auctions rather than from middlemen like GlacierWear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailonfurs Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Buying and reselling is not the same with making something or manufacturing... would you tell a painter that his work only worths 5$ of paint and a 10$ canvas and that his paintings are overpriced? But can a store sell a 5$ paint for as much as they please? I am sure that these folks are very nice,polite and professionals, but can't I mention that I think they are pricey because I'm a furrier, or because you like them? With a quick search you''ll see that on this forum there are 240 matches for the word "expensive"... Also, did you know that pelt prices did hit the roof this year? I bought 120$ blackglama skins from AUCTION! You go buy them from a middleman and try make a new full length coat for less than what I sell them for... it is impossible. You'll see that the middleman in the end earns much more than what we do, and we include hours of work and the fur making art in our prices... You can buy your near mint, or 20 years old unused stocks furs for 1000$ or less if you like, I don't judge. But 99% of our furs are brand new (mostly one years old), from fresh pelts, and most are custom made for no extra charge. If you know about furs, which you claim you do, then you'd know that a fresh-made fur from fresh pelts is the finest, and this is what we sell at MAILON. And to conclude, our ebay prices are not final and we accept offers. Also, how much are this kind of "pricey" furs sold for in retails stores there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 And pray tell, Mailonfurs, what is your profit margin on the coats you sell on eBay? Your waist-length coats don't look like they contain more than 10 or 12 male mink pelts. Tricia Sorry, Vince. You sure do seem to know a lot about fur but I think you are off base on this one. First off, there is nothing wrong with profit taking. A man deserves to get paid for his work. It takes a hell of a lot of work to make a good product whether that product is fur or anything else. Second, the sake of discussion, let's forget about the cost of materials and overhead. Let's forget about paying skilled laborers to assemble the product, even. Can you honestly tell me that Kostas does not deserve to get paid for his work in making his designs? If that is true then why would he spend time, energy and money to make new designs for fur coats every year? I think you confuse the idea of "profit taking" with profiteering. (The taking of unjustified profit.) There is nothing wrong with taking just profit for one's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Fox Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Vince, I am allowing your post to stay only because it shows how totally off base that you really are. I suggest you be careful not to show that to others again in the future. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGalanos Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I bought 120$ blackglama skins from AUCTION! $120 for a single Blackglama pelt?! No wonder I like Blackglama so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailonfurs Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Indeed dear JG however now prices on pelts are dropping. I do not know if we have to thank the recession for that. Cause I really cannot imagine where prices on new furs would be without the recession today with fur being in fashion and all... As for the main debate on this topic and to end this... I understand that some might not like a furrier talking openly for other fur related businesses. My intentions were good, after all we only sell furs and not pelts, so someone thinking that we intentionally try to harm the image of that fur business would be utterly wrong. However, maybe there are more out there who would think a furrier should not comment on other peoples work. When I firstly joined this website I was really discreet but after considering the den as a family I started expressing myself openly without hesitations. But now I realised that Its not like that and my words could be misinterpreted. Thus I'll never comment on prices again. At most, I will only be mentioning on interested fur buyers that post here, any alternatives that we could offer for their consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallee Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 ... after considering the den as a family I started expressing myself openly without hesitations. But now I realized that Its not like that and my words could be misinterpreted. Thus I'll never comment on prices again. At most, I will only be mentioning on interested fur buyers that post here, any alternatives that we could offer for their consideration. Don't let one persons negativity put you off. The rest of us appreciate your input. It doesn't matter what you say, how you say it or why you said it. Someone somewhere somehow will misinterpret what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod_bee Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hello, 1) Those pelts are a dream !! (or at least something I dream of ) 2) The possibilities what a furrier can produce with these are dream times possibilties = the best you can ever imagine 3) (I do not comment on the discussion) But now since 1) is answered, what would your thoughts on 2) be ?!? Best regards Zaphod_bee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Fox Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Kostas As mentioned, you should not let this affect the way that you post here. Mainly because this is your home just like everyone else here and you should feel free to post as you wish within it. (Within the rules of course as you always do.) Secondly you have become a sort of information source here. I am not using the word consultant, as that implies you make money, etc. Which of course you don't. But, many people here have found your information here extremely helpful, and we hope that this will continue. We do know that there are a very few other fur business related people here. We would love to see you come out into the open as well. White Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGalanos Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 As mentioned, you should not let this affect the way that you post here. Mainly because this is your home just like everyone else here and you should feel free to post as you wish within it. I concur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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