lanafurs1 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/55/afftgp822ck.jpg http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8505/afftgp852xo.jpg http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5531/afftgp815ag.jpg http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4159/afftgp838as.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Nice post but its a shame she wasnt a bit more cheerful! Thanks Lana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Do people LIKE that kind of expression/posture in a fantasy picture? I can get behind a dark, ominous or even a brooding tone in a picture but, in that first one, she looks truly upset and heartbroken! A bit of a turn-off for me. ...Just one man's opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 yes thats what I thought exactly worker....its a shame cos the quality /outfit/image is nice...just the facial expression that spoils it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravens8 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Don't get it - potentially beautifull girl, feminine dress and beautifull white fox stole. And then totally ruined by the facial expression. What was she trying to portray. These photos should surely have been rejects. There must have been better ones. - Strangest angel I've ever seen!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfox57de Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 first two pics look a bit strange indeed... but it should be in the experience of the photographer to overcome the problem with her right eyelid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 By the look of the wine glass in her hand, I am starting to wonder if she was a willing participant. Maybe she had one too many drinks, thinking she would loosen up a little bit if she had some wine. But, the thing that bothers me is that somebody behind the camera got her "liquored up" for some other purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Whats occurring here is interesting. What we have here, is a very nice fox fur, a beautiful girl, some elegant nylons/dress, and from my point of view the cigarette should help. It isnt working. SO.....what are we saying? If we were pure fur fetishists we'd just be looking at the fur and nothing else. Any ideas? For me it isnt elegant because she doesnt look like she is enjoying it, or being seductive, or understands elegance. The wine suggests she may even be drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfox57de Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I agree ToS she IS beautiful (i love her face) , the fur is nice, a cigarette could make it... The third and fourth pic are showing a bit of her potential but only a low percentage Perhaps I should have taken the shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravens8 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 You're absolutely right ToS. Although I love fur, a woman or girl in fur is that one step even better. However, when a woman wears fur something else often seems to happen. She may be beautifull (or even plain), the fur may be beautifull, but put the two together and something else happens. A third quality seems to manifest which is picked up strongly on the subconscious as well as the conscious level. She knows she looks good, she knows she feels good, she knows she's more noticeable, and the woman often seems to develop a kind of self confidence that manifests inwards as well as outwards. An intangible quality. Maybe what the french call a "Je ne sias pas" How often have I seen a woman put on a fur and instantly become more flirtatious, in manners, sideways glances, speech etc. often she doesn't even seem to be aware that she's doing it and in fact doesnt seem to care that she's leaving minor earthquakes in the men standing around her. It's as if the fur experience is enough for her, not the effect on others. Being a guy, I'm probably talking complete gibberish here. Perhaps some of the ladies on the forum could comment on this. What is the quality they feel when they put on a fur, and do they always realise what effect it has on others, and is it intentional or si subconscious. I think this would make an interesting stand alone topic to continue with Incidently the girl in the photos just hasn't quite got it. The beauty is there, the fur is there, but the third intangible quality just hasn't happened. Maybe it is the wine, who knows. Maybe she just doesn't like fur. Anyway I suppose we shouldn't really judge her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Anyway I suppose we shouldn't really judge her We're not judging HER. We're judging the photo. There is a HUGE difference. We can't judge the model as a person because we don't know her. We CAN judge the photographer's skill and the subjective qualities of his photos. We CAN make inferences about the situation in the photography studio at the time the photos were taken. We have to remember that when we look at a photo it is a fantasy. It is not real. What goes on in our mind and what goes on in real life when the photos were shot are two VERY different things. When we say that we don't like the model's pose, her expression and her body language we are actually saying that we don't like the way the photograher conveyed the fantasy imagery to the viewer. When I looked at the photo, I got a sinking feeling that the photographer in question was part of a fly-by-night operation that simply got girls drunk and took advantage of them just to get them to pose for nude or pornographic photos and/or videos. AFAIC, if a girl (or guy) wants to pose for sexy photos and video shoots... even if the operation is only in it for commercial gain... that's okay. If a girl (or guy) wants to get drunk or stoned while shooting, that's okay. I don't personally like drug/alcohol abuse, but what the F***. This is supposed to be a free country. But, if a photographer and/or his employer gets people drunk or stoned just to take advantage of them for thier own selfish purposes, this is BAD in my book. I just don't like it when the object of my fantasies/desires isn't having as much fun as I am. This applies to real life fantasy/sex situations AND photgraphic "i-Porn" situations. Sexual fantasies aren't supposed to hurt people. That woman looked like she was being hurt. That makes me feel hurt inside. If it's no fun for her, it's no fun for me! If we were pure fur fetishists we'd just be looking at the fur and nothing else. Maybe... Even to a fetishist, the fur has a symbolic fantasy meaning. If the fantasy is not carried out to its fullest potential, the symbolism is lost thus leaving only the hard reality of what's actually portrayed in the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 But fetishism isnt supposed to be reliant on that. Its meant that the object itself has a meaning sexually (or religiously, symbolically etc). Its my assertion that most of us here are not true fetishishts. And that it is entirely normal to be attracted to elegant women....fur being obviously beautiful in terms of adornment and anyone who says otherwise is twisted. But it takes more than the fur for most of us. Tryxie has some intersting ideas about cultural roots of sexual attraction which I hope she posts. She mentioned something about pale faces being attractive because it indicated a woman who wasnt working outside, and probably lately a tan can indicate health and ability to travel widely. See I think fur indicates desirability of a mate ..... rubbish fur doesnt do the same, and a woman who looks like she doesnt want to mate the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Its my assertion that most of us here are not true fetishishts. I have to agree. True psychologically-rooted fetishism is supposed to be a fairly rare phenomenon. I wouldn't say sexual attraction to fur is "entirely normal" but it certainly lies within range of one standard deviation from the mean. (It lies wtihin the continuum of "normal" behaviors.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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