furrycocoon Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Do you think there are any furriers that like furs like we do.Just always wondered and probably hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2809 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I would think so, the texas furrier i went to in san antonio told me they love furs. one of the ladys there mentioned she loves both fox and mink and wears the furs often while in cold storage doing her work... paul2809 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) I have often wondered that myself! Edited January 16, 2013 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Does a candy maker love chocolate? Does a pastry chef love cake and donuts? Does a brewmaster love beer? Of course, a furrier loves fur! But that doesn't negate the responsibility of the businessman to exhibit professional behavior. You won't see the pastry chef chowing down on cookies behind the sales counter and you would be mortified to see a brewmaster who is three sheets to the wind. On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with him having a cold one on a Saturday night. In fact, it would be out of place if he didn't sample his own product, at least occasionally. On a couple of occasions, I have asked a carefully worded question to a furrier. The response was always a polite smile but, if you watch carefully, you might notice a subtle wink and a nod. A furrier has to be careful with his public image. At least, a good one does. There are all kinds of people who buy furs. Some people shop for fashion or luxury. Others shop for prestige. Still, others, shop for practicality and warmth. A salesperson never knows who is going to walk through the door next and he has to be careful lest he offend the wrong customer. Even if the furrier assumes the extreme case that every fur he sells will eventually wind up in the bedroom, he STILL has to be very careful! How would you feel if you knew that the soft, beautiful fur you are about to lay down and enjoy yourself with had already been played with by somebody else? That's kind of gross! ( T.M.I. !!! ) On the other hand, I would bet dollars to donuts that many a furrier has sold a fur coat, full-well knowing that tonight is going to be a furry night in the bedroom! I don't know for sure but I'll bet you a dollar that there is more than one furrier who has made himself a custom fur bedspread for his own bedroom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furrycocoon Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 You would have to get to know a furrier very well in order for them to admit that they love furs.You're right Worker,it is a pblic image thing.Even though you can imagine some after hours shenagins with a gorgeous f/l lynx is highly possible,you wouldn't want it to happen if you bought that coat.But imagine the temptations when the doors close and everyones gone home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Every profession has its own jargon. In the movie business, the term "Four-Wall" means a private showing of a movie, which is technically illegal. But, if a person knows a theater manager well enough and, if he comes with enough money in-hand, anything is possible. I can tell you from personal experience that Four-Walls can and do happen. They don't happen every day but they happen on a somewhat routine basis. I would suppose that furriers have their own jargon and, if you know a furrier well enough, he would share some "inside information" with you but, again, this would not be an everyday occurrence. For instance, if you used the word "Play" in context with a furrier I am certain that he would know exactly what you mean. But, as we said already, his response would basically be confined to a subtle wink and a nod unless you know the guy pretty well. Spending a little bit of money in his shop would certainly help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furrycocoon Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 Anyone have any clues to which furrier you've encountered who does like to indulge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furup Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 hi, I think this might be very true a least once i went to my furier to either get my furs or put into storage and once i saw the ladies removing coats as they saw a known customer at the door. i never said anything about it just smilled and they used the exuse of just trying them on i would like to see a post by mallon furs who posts here on this subject. as for brewmisters i saw a tv show about a brewy and they had a open tap in the factory with unlimited takers but they said they don;'t like to work drunk. i also read the eathanol plants when the product comes out it is drinkable and wondered do they have a tap to take samples out. in fact when they fill a 20,000 tank car of the stuff they poison it by adding a 5 gallon tank of gasoline before closing and releasing the car to start on its journey. furup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Spending a little bit of money in his shop would certainly help. That's an understatement. Just ask the good people who run the after-hours salons for Dennis Basso, Fendi, et cetera. More champagne, please. After ten years' experience visiting and buying from furriers, fashionistas and full-blown fur enthusiasts, I often wonder who is reading this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furrycocoon Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 What do you mean ,Joe.After hours at the furriers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 High-end stores and boutiques, etc., often have one set of hours for the general public and another set of hours for their established clients. For instance, they might post their hours on the front door as "Monday - Friday: 10:00 AM till 6:00 PM & Saturday till 4:00" but then, at the posted closing time, they'll lock the front door and turn off the sign but they are actually open for business an hour or more. You just can't get in the door unless the owner knows who you are. When I mentioned "Four-Wall" it means, pretty much, the same thing. i.e. An off-the-books showing of a movie for "select clientele." You might also see the sign say, "By Appointment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouchomg Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 My furrier likes furs, if what she wears when she walks down to Panera for lunch is any indication. It seems to me that furry furriers would be a good advertisement for their wares. Since someone mentioned Mailon, let me say again that I recommend them strongly. I have a lovely warm golden fox fur purchased from Mailon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 It's never been uncommon for luxury retailers to close their stores, and even open after regular business hours for customers who will always spend large amounts of money. They offer complimentary refreshments -- often champagne. During 2008 and 2009, the luxury market only took a brief hit -- now, its growth has far surpassed analysts' expectations. The resurgence of fur on the fashion runways is grand and glorious evidence of the "top one percent"'s growth despite a global economic downturn. Vintage fur has brought the trend to the right tastemakers and onward to the internet-savvy youth, a trend that isn't going away anytime soon. I, for one, hope that growing availability of luxury winter fashion will help lift our spirits and remind us to take comfort in what we enjoy. Because it's a pity about all those jobs, pensions, 401(k)s, schools, charities, bailouts and foreclosures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fur999 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Talking about Furry Furriers, I saw this coat on Purpleshoshana's site. If this was not designed by someone who understands our fetish, then it must have been a custom order for one of us. Check out the second to last picture when you scroll down, surely that is an image any furry fetishist would dream of?? http://www.purpleshoshana.com/results/details.asp?pc=1264 Thoughts gentlemen/ladies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbas3175 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Couldn't agreee more! I had this very design made for me by Elysee Furs in Montreal, but with a full length coat rather than a jacket. Superb. The cape is sensational. Double-sided fur. So heavy, so sumptuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I can speak directly from experience with regard to "candy maker". I worked for a summer in a candy factory (it was my dad's career). It was HORRIBLE! No I did not want ot eat any candy! You walk into the factory and the waft of sugar smell hits you. Granted it was not chocolate. It was hard candy (e.g peanut brittle). The best thing my dad ever did for me was to hire me for the summer when I was 16. When ever I though college chemistry was "too hard" he's just say "Well there's always the factory kid!" That kept me in school and eventually a PhD (which by the way stands for "piled higher and deeper") SO, I'd say overall candy makers probably don't indulge in candy so much. Now a furrier, he or she could indugle daily and it would never get old. Well maybe a little. hat about a brewer? I live near Chico, CA home of Sierra Nevada brewery. Damn it smells good around the brewery! Plus there is a good product to "test". My $0.02. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Fox Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Elbas I notice a coat like you describe in the photos of the one get together of members of the fur club. Is that you by any chance? Hooded blue fox with a cape attached just underneath. I love the way the cape in that photo of the jacket comes down almost to the end of the sleeve really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbas3175 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Don't think it's me, but the coat/cape sounds amazing!! Where can I see this photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Fox Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Sorry about that. First link in the thread about the Fur meeting arranged by the Fur Club. Or click here. http://www.fourrureclub.com/blog/rencontre-annuelle-la-convention-du-fourrureclub/la-convention-n%C2%B01/ Just about half way down the page on the right side. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbas3175 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Ah yes, the cape does look just like mine, based on the purpleshoshana design. It's fantastic. And, like the guy in the photo, best worn over a hooded coat. Then you put the hood up, and the cape can drape over the hood. Otherwise, cape on its own is a bit floppy. Your head is totally enveloped in the fur. It's just the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuFc85 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 That coat is indeed amazing, but I have actually seen quite a few with a similar design, but then mostly minks. I think a lot of women would like "excessive" furs even though they don't have the same special relationship to furs as we do. As for furriers liking fur in that way: I'm not sure if that is a widespread case. Over here (Norway) most furriers are family businesses and the men owning them usually have a very matter-of-factly attitude to their job. The female sales-assistants, that's another story. It's usually pretty obvious that they like to model the furs. You can see how they enjoy adjusting the coat on their frames and button it up. There's a certain twinkle in their eye, but that might just be due to the general female yearning and appreciation for luxury products (I'm not sure if you would agree with this observation) rather than a deeper love for fur. I have been to a couple of after-hours special appointments and I can absolutely recommend it. It's a very special experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furrycocoon Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 What did you do on these after hours appointments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worker 11811 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 In every sales business it is essential to have enthusiasm for the product. It doesn't matter whether you are selling cars or televisions or furs. If you don't show your customer how much you like the product they won't like the product either. It's hard to explain unless you have worked in sales but the simple way to explain it is to say that there is a certain amount of acting involved. Of course, you must have some interest in the product you sell or you wouldn't be selling it but the acting part comes when you are trying to get your message across to the buyer. To a certain degree, the salesman plays a part like an actor plays a part in a movie. I have no doubt that virtually everybody who looks at a nice fur coat has a little inkling of sexiness in the back of their mind. Maybe they don't get turned on like many of us are. Maybe they don't have visions of themselves and their significant other rolling around naked in a bed covered with soft, luxurious furs but I think most people would do the fur thing if they had the chance. Why else would we see these subtexts in the plots of movies and TV shows? But, as we said above, a furrier has to be very careful when talking to a customer so that he doesn't offend, scare off or otherwise give too much information with regard to sex and fur. I think the Norwegian model is reasonable. The business owner is the family patriarch who has to maintain dignity. The other family members and hired help might have less stringent responsibilities and, therefore, might have more proclivity to displaying their feelings. Then, the dignified patriarch gets to stand back, fold his arms and watch from a distance as he lets his female associates use a just a little bit of sex to sell the product, all the while maintaining "plausible deniability" for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Fox Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Worker, your post here reminds me of my real pet Peve! You see a fur show on a runway. On utube etc. They go through this whole show. Then at the end the guy who designed these beautiful pieces of art comes out wearing a suit or something like that. That to me is total blind ignorance on their part! Ignorance in huge upper case letters. If you are designing fur and like your designs, then design one for yourself and wear it. If you do not like your designs well enough to wear one, then stay home! Don't waste my time! This really gets me to see these people coming out not wearing a design of their own. To me it worse than ignorance really! If I was looking at a coat for myself or a mate etc., and I knew that the designer did that I would refuse to buy it. He obviously does not like his own work so why should I like it or buy it? I will buy from someone who does. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuFc85 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 @Furrycoccoon I don't know if this is what always happens, but I went to a furrier in Buenos Aires and said that I was looking for a fur for my mother and while they were showing me around I said that I would like to look for one for myself as well as I was so taken with the furs. I pretended to be a complete beginner when it comes to fur. I said that I was in a hurry but would drop by another day. That was when the sales lady suggested I come after closing time the same day. I made an appointment and came back later. I was met by the lady I was talking to earlier in the day (who I imagine must be some sort of manager), a younger woman and a boy. The served me beer and coffee on a tray while the lady talked about the furs, modelled them and let me try them on as well. They were all very friendly and open and had no problems with me being a man and wanting a fur coat. The only thing I can point out as being slightly negative must be that they were perhaps a little bit too pushy. But all in all, it was a very nice and relaxed atmosphere where I was the centre of attention. Plus of course, free beers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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