lynxette Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just read in the news that effective Jan 2019 it will be illegal to buy or sell real furs of any type or style in the City of San Francisco. Apparently this was approved unanimously by the city Board of Supervisors, despite the warnings given by several business owners. Old inventory may be sold until Jan 2020, if it was purchased before the vote date. This is absolutely pathetic, and one more reason that I hope to never have any reason to go to that city again. Leather is of course exempted, further demonstrating the double standards of those who are carrying out this policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoJaguar Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Pretty lame. Also lame of them to not make it a city vote versus a few people. Board of Supervisors? What the hell is that? Ah well. Sorry SF peoples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Yeah, pretty fucked up. While it would have been nice to see this vote go to the residents, instead of a few in power, I suspect the results would have been the same. SF has a pretty young and liberal populace. And while there's nothing wrong with that inherently (I count myself as pretty liberal too) I strongly suspect many of those young liberals are anti-fur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 On the plus side, you might be able to get some extremely great deals from the few furriers in the area as they liquidate their inventory. I know that's a little messed up, but there's a silver lining to every cloud, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTheNightKnight Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 This has lawsuit written all over it. And if the reasons why come up in the case, the reasons will show themselves as either false or hypocritical. And this is from someone who otherwise supports the city on pushing social progress. This isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minkme Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Lynxette, You beat me posting the news. I grew up in San Francisco. I remember dozens of fur stores around Union Square, the main shopping area in the City. All the small shops are long gone. Now the only place to buy furs is at Sak's 5th Avenue's Fur Salon and Niemen's Marcus Department stores. That's only two places and one small shop that mainly deals with second hand furs left. Only orders placed before March 20, 2018 can be filled. So I don't think there will be any great deals left, what they have on hand or orders is all what can be sold. I am still hoping to buy my wife a fur, now this seems to change things. Sad day for sure. http://www.sfexaminer.com/san-francisco-becomes-first-major-city-u-s-ban-fur-sales/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furs limited Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So many other, more important, things to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul2809 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I am curious as to if alot of the furriers are going to move out of state or to another town to stay in opporation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minkme Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Ban also applies to the sale of fur accessories like fur hats. The ordering of fur items shipped to a San Francisco address is also prohibited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxette Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 Wow, now that is really a bridge too far. So if I live in San Fran, which i would NEVER do, I cannot even buy a fur coat from say David Green in Alaska and have it shipped to me??? How do they plan on enforcing that draconian regulation, opening everyone's mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furs limited Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Sounds like a breech of interstate commerce. What fur association has sufficiently deep pockets to fight this in court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerphoon Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 San Francisco has always been a state of liberal colored hair landwhale dykes. No offense, but you know the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexii Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Online sales seems insane. Well for that matter even the ban itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furlover02 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 So now our cities and States are telling us what we can do, sell, buy? I think there is more important things out there to be taken care of. Why furs? I thought this was America, Land of the Free? What next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxette Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Because the PETAphiles want us to freeze to death...sorry, but I am not going to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTheNightKnight Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Wow, now that is really a bridge too far. So if I live in San Fran, which i would NEVER do, I cannot even buy a fur coat from say David Green in Alaska and have it shipped to me??? How do they plan on enforcing that draconian regulation, opening everyone's mail? Again, this has lawsuit written all over it, like the short-lived soda size ban in New York City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethsable Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Strange days. How is this even legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxette Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Well, in essence, it is apparently legal at the moment because the Board of Supervisors says it is legal. I think Lord is quite right that legal action may come about, if not by s merchant, than by someone who wants to buy and receive a fur from somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther10 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) I think that SF's branch of the Chamber of Commerce and their local chapter of the BBB will probably take these guys to court long before the citizens of that particular city do. Hell even the Governor of the state might be all up in arms over this because this vote supersedes his gubernatorial authority. I would bet that Gerry Brown won't lift a finger to make sure that this city council decision is enforced in any meaningful way. Edited March 24, 2018 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furbabe Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 This is ridiculous. I hope that there will be a legal challenge. Next thing you know the PeTA Freaks will want a law banning the WEARING of furs in San Francisco. A few years ago I'd heard of some night clubs in NYC (none that I'd care to visit; catered to young & trendy types) which ban the wearing of fur on their premises. There's also a night spot down in Laguna Beach, or was that Newport Beach, Orange County, Calif., which does the same (I hope they're out of business). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnomink Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 It's a bizarre turn of events, because as I understand it, SF has become less of a home to young leftists or the type of bohemian artists who once populated the city and gave it it's charm, and more of a home to tech bros looking to make a quick dollar. Maybe they wanted to virtue signal to try and keep up their city's old image, since all the young struggling artists and musicians are in Oakland now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minkme Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Apparently the Chamber of Commerce asked for the Board of Supervisors for more time on the issue. The Chamber of Commerce lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther10 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Apparently the Chamber of Commerce asked for the Board of Supervisors for more time on the issue. The Chamber of Commerce lost. ooh...that wont bode well for the City Council in SF or PETA. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is one of the most powerful lobbyists in the country. You do not want to get on their bad side, especially with a republican controlled congress in their pocket. They will chew organizations like PETA up and spit them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxette Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 I am not sure how i feel about this in the overall, as I am opposed in principle, but not sure whether the citizens of San Francisco will even notice. The businesses will move on, case closed i fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbass45601 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 They are all high and mighty but they attack humans with robots http://www.businessinsider.com/security-robots-are-monitoring-the-homeless-in-san-francisco-2017-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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